Petit Point — Over One |
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What's the difference between petit point and "over one?" Is petit point a half cross over one thread - and "over one" a complete cross over one thread? And does the thread count determine anything?
Barb answered:
You guessed it correctly. Petit point is done on silk gauze and can also be done on linen/evenweave fabrics.
From: Helen Mardis
I find there is definitely a trick to stitch over-one so the floss does not get "lost" within the weave of the linen. To prevent this, I use the "continental" method of stitching when I stitch over-one. I so much like this technique and the results that it gives, that I exclusively use this method all the time when I stitch, regardless of my ground fabric and whether I stitch over-one or over-two. I prefer the continental stitch because I get better and even tension, my stitches lay uniformly, there's more "umph" and depth to the finished stitching on the front side, and the backside is much neater, to name a few advantages. Of course, one disadvantage to this method is it uses much more floss, i.e., there is more floss on the backside than there is on the front. But, I do not find this disadvantage to be detrimental. In fact, it's much easier to begin and end floss tails with the continental stitching technique, IMO.
Instead of using bandwidth here, may I invite anyone interested in this method to visit my webpage where I illustrate (albeit via ascii art) the continental stitch. If anyone has any questions or would like further information, I'd be happy to help as best I can.
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Another excellent site to explain "over one" is:
Deborah L. McMahon's site is full of good information. On this page Debbie shows a side-by-side image of the difference between "over two" and "over one". She also has a stitch diagram and step-by-step instructions on how to accomplish the stitches.
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From: Lula The silk gauze comes in different mesh sizes. The one I'm working on is 40 mesh or 40 stitches to the inch! There are some a little larger such as 30 mesh and I hear it goes all the way past 52 mesh and smaller, that's when they use sewing thread to stitch!
The silk gauze looks like fine netting and you stitch over each thread like doing a half a XS except I like the tent stitch which looks exactly the same on the front but covers the back of the gauze better with thread. Either way is fine, just a personal preference on my part. Stitching gauze is very similar to XS'ers doing one over one on fine
linen. It's not hard to get used to at all and the results are great.
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The piece of gauze came mounted on a cardboard mat not on scroll bars. If you're interested, look to Crossed Wing Collections little silk gauze kits to try out. Maureen Appleton also has some silk gauze sampler kits too.
http://www.woolydream.com/WD_wip.html
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Stitcher's paradise is the ULTIMATE SITE for Petit Point, Needlepoint and Counted Cross Stitch! There is an entrire gallery of petit point here:
http://xstitch.com/frames.html
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From: Diantha I do a lot of over one stitching, but only when there are no partial stitches in the pattern. The reason for me for no partials is cause I only do one for one stitching. I do not do 4 stitches for every one on the pattern. The piece comes out looking exactly the same as the pattern except it is smaller. I started doing this because I do not have much wall space in my house for all of DH's Civil War Prints and all his certificates and awards from the military.
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From: Weesha When you are stitching over-one, you are stitching over where one thread crosses another thread ...like this --|--
in over-two, you're stitching over this:
Of course, this is only if you want the finished project to be the same size as it would be if you stitched it over-two....you can just do one stitch per symbol, but the picture will be 1/4 the size.
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From: Rae If your project has an area that calls for "Petite Point" or one over (using evenweave) you need to follow the directions as is or make changes to your chart.
For example: On the piece I'm on now, the eyes are 'one over'. On the chart the area for the eyes is blank and a separate chart is provided for the eyes. The space provided for the eyes is 6 (2 over) sts across by 2 sts down but,
but, but, the special chart is 12 sts across and 4 sts down. I followed the charts in the book exactly and the eyes came out perfectly (and beautiful too once all the back stitching was in); if I had gone 2 over, the eyes would have been incomplete.
The finished effect is worth the effort. Those eyes just come alive. There's no way they would have been the same 2 over.
Make sure you follow directions for the number of threads you should use. You can't use 3 in 1 over; you don't have enough space. My instructions called for 1 thread in 1 over.
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From: Karla The tricky bit in changing a chart from over two to over one is the partial stitches. I just use the same logic as deciding whether the quarter stitch goes "here" or "there". If the color is the foreground color, make it the 3/4 stitch (or with over one, do three stitches) and the background gets the 1/4 (or one).
On things like MLI faces and hands, I rechart them and try to make the shading more subtle. Since they were originally designed as over two, some of the color changes (like the blush on a cheek for example) are kind of jagged, you can smooth it out considerably by "stair stepping" the colors. Put one cross of the blush color "in the corner" where the original stepped up a row.
I would rather make four times as many stitches as deal with partial ones!
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For an example of using over one stitching for detail work in an over two chart, look at this website:
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From: CameoRoze
There is a superb article by Martha Beth Lewis called Stitching Over One in the December, 1998 edition of Just CrossStitch Magazine, page 12
Also, see her article, Partial Stitches and Stitching "Over One" on Aida Cloth on her website.
For another article about stitching over one, visit the Twisted Threads website.
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